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 +One small general line about John we get from S4 Episode 7 "Happy Hank's Giving" is from Joseph:
  
 +> How long are you going to be in Arizona, Mr. Redcorn?
 +> Just for the Thanksgiving weekend.
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 +We can infer that he has family and possibly ancestry in Arizona, not just Texas.
 ==== Pueblo ==== ==== Pueblo ====
  
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 [{{drafts:2025:images:20250830-013844.png?200 |North American interior plains}}] [{{drafts:2025:images:20250830-013844.png?200 |North American interior plains}}]
  
 +S2E3: The titular Arrowhead of the episode is specifically a Caddo arrowhead, said many times by the archeologist.  Peggy also stated that the Caddo were the earliest settlers of the area.
  
 In this "Spin the Choice" episode, John attempts to gift a war bonnet to his son Joseph.  It is a bison horned bonnet, and bison did indeed used to roam Texas before they were intentionally hunted to near-extinction by colonizers.  War bonnets are associated with Plains tribes, and combined with John dreaming of riding horses with Joseph in Season 14, may point to John having Osage heritage.  Though the Osage are more from the Oklahoma area, there is a connection with Pueblo culture as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plains_Indians#Horses|horses were believed to have been captured from the Spanish by Pueblo people, and then traded to tribes farther north]]. In this "Spin the Choice" episode, John attempts to gift a war bonnet to his son Joseph.  It is a bison horned bonnet, and bison did indeed used to roam Texas before they were intentionally hunted to near-extinction by colonizers.  War bonnets are associated with Plains tribes, and combined with John dreaming of riding horses with Joseph in Season 14, may point to John having Osage heritage.  Though the Osage are more from the Oklahoma area, there is a connection with Pueblo culture as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plains_Indians#Horses|horses were believed to have been captured from the Spanish by Pueblo people, and then traded to tribes farther north]].
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 There's also the aspect of US American culture for non-white people in real life actually BEING mixed up together as part of the "melting pot".  Asian Americans kids often hang out with each other, regardless if they're Indian (from India!!!) or Vietnamese or Chinese, because they're already being thrown under the Asian umbrella by their non-Asian peers, and there is a little bit of shared culture from immigration and food and parenting and stuff.  Hell as I've said before, when I was growing up I tended to latch onto ANY of the rare characters or cool people that was not just some white dude (lemme tell you about how Asian kids LOVED Rey Mysterio...)  because... being non-white is its own sort of upbringing in the majority-white United States!!  Some may find umbrella terms useful for solidarity, and to find connections through shared experiences and common goals.  While others may prefer to identify as their more specific identity - see how Ted Wassanasong expresses disappointment in Kahn for equating his Laotianness (and vengeance against white dudes lol) with Chinese railroad slaves. There's also the aspect of US American culture for non-white people in real life actually BEING mixed up together as part of the "melting pot".  Asian Americans kids often hang out with each other, regardless if they're Indian (from India!!!) or Vietnamese or Chinese, because they're already being thrown under the Asian umbrella by their non-Asian peers, and there is a little bit of shared culture from immigration and food and parenting and stuff.  Hell as I've said before, when I was growing up I tended to latch onto ANY of the rare characters or cool people that was not just some white dude (lemme tell you about how Asian kids LOVED Rey Mysterio...)  because... being non-white is its own sort of upbringing in the majority-white United States!!  Some may find umbrella terms useful for solidarity, and to find connections through shared experiences and common goals.  While others may prefer to identify as their more specific identity - see how Ted Wassanasong expresses disappointment in Kahn for equating his Laotianness (and vengeance against white dudes lol) with Chinese railroad slaves.
  
-In-character, it can be inferred that John wasn't that connected with his heritage before his current New Age Healer occupation.+As for inconsistencies in-character, it can be inferred that John wasn't that connected with his heritage before his current New Age Healer occupation.
  
 > There aren't too many former roadies who own their own healing centers. > There aren't too many former roadies who own their own healing centers.
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 > [[https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=87837|- John Redcorn,  S7E12 Vision Quest]] > [[https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=87837|- John Redcorn,  S7E12 Vision Quest]]
  
 +A lot of John's character is based on him seeming like a wise mystic, but he's mostly bluffing it to sell an image (and sell his body) to the non-Natives of Arlen.  At his core he's just a regular dude who likes dad rock, driving, and beer.  It's likely that he doesn't have all the facts lined up about his heritage either, since he's learning himself.  It's an interesting duality of subversion and stereotypes that's realistic to me.  You can also see the subverted stereotypes mirrored in Kahn being the Asian over-achiever and strict parent with a fake accent -- but even Kahn just likes to sing Def Leppard and shoot the shit in the alley rather than talk about Buddha all day.  I like that it grounds these characters as real flawed personalities, and it's a nice pushback on the expectations that many have on People Of Color to be perfect all-knowing representations of their race that can recite every wikipedia article about their country.
 ===== Cumclusion ===== ===== Cumclusion =====
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 +More reading:
 +  * [[https://etd.ohiolink.edu/acprod/odb_etd/ws/send_file/send?accession=bgsu1181226037&disposition=inline|REPRESENTATIONS OF REDFACE:
 +DECOLONIZING THE AMERICAN SITUATION COMEDY'S "INDIAN"]]
 +  * [[https://escholarship.org/content/qt9xh7m0w2/qt9xh7m0w2_noSplash_dbd25b289fb21961072b0ebf5bd5fd7f.pdf|The Heart of Lightness:
 +Hollywood’s Wild West Show Revisited]]
  
 But anyways.  That's enough for today.  I feel like I can talk about racial stereotypes in cartoons all day long let alone the way they're handled (for better or worse or surprisingly woke for the 90's in the era of South Park and shock jock radio) in King of the Hill LMAO don't you hold your breath for my blog post about Kahn and Connie!  But yeah this is still part of my "ode to a dude" blog series so I have to also analyze the Native American heritage of cartoon characters Nathan Explosion, Brock Samson, and Wolverine.  Soon... this might go past Blaugust. But anyways.  That's enough for today.  I feel like I can talk about racial stereotypes in cartoons all day long let alone the way they're handled (for better or worse or surprisingly woke for the 90's in the era of South Park and shock jock radio) in King of the Hill LMAO don't you hold your breath for my blog post about Kahn and Connie!  But yeah this is still part of my "ode to a dude" blog series so I have to also analyze the Native American heritage of cartoon characters Nathan Explosion, Brock Samson, and Wolverine.  Soon... this might go past Blaugust.